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John Herbert is a Self-Motivated Destineer. He’s resilient, self-sufficient, self-motivated (I know, I already said that, but he makes it worth saying twice), cyclist, minimalist, and destiny-owner. I had never spoken to him at length prior this recording. I made sure not to have anything more than small talk before hitting record. This dude is super authentic, and I can’t wait to hang out again. At the end of this episode, I felt like there was something we hadn’t touched on, that needed to be recorded. Sure enough, after we stopped recording, we had more great conversation about some very meaningful subjects. So, stay tuned for another episode with John in the near future. A big thank you to Clint Sana (from episode 4), for connecting me with John Herbert!